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Interest in a custom '94-'95 intake tube

I'm talking to Densecharger about making an intake system for our '94-'95's, and was just wondering if there's enough interest for him to produce them. They would be molded to fit our cars perfectly, even over the fuel rails, and would be made out of ABS plastic, so they wouldn't heat up like the metal Civic Tube. I've sent him pictures of under the hood and talked to him about what we need. He seems interested, but If I can get a number of people who would want one when they are available, it might help speed up the process. You can see pics of the Mustang ones he makes at www.densecharger.com. Pricing for the entire system, with filter and all would be tentatively around $160.
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wow 160 for a stock plastic lookin intake?...wow my civic intake was 40....if you could post some pics of it finished and lower the price i would be interested..
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yeah, the civic tube is $40, you also have to rig some stuff to get it to fit, it doesn't go all the way down, with the filter located outside of the car. This system will go from the TB all the way to outside the car, and include the filter. The civic tube is also only 3", where this one will be 3.5, and will actually look good on the car, while improving performance. I paid $45 for my K&N conical, add that to the price of the Civic Tube, then add all the BS with it not fitting over the fuel rails properly, and I think you've got a good deal. Try pricing a new RichardM tube, which is currently the only good looking, perfect fit product. You'll find that the Densecharger at $160 just became a good deal. There's no way the price will be much lower than that.
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Would it use a cone filter outside the engine compartment, inside the e.c., or a panel filter with stock box?

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It would use a cone filter outside of the engine compartment. It's a complete system, the only thing left of you factory system would be the MAF. ShadowDragon is going by there later in the week for him to take some measurements to ensure a good fit.
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Well I've offered to swing by and let him take measurements anyway. If he goes for it and anyone at Nats wants to tag along it's not but 15 minutes away from the hotel.

He also mentioned to me a few weeks ago that they were tooling up for Carbon Fiber, so there's something for the bling people.

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Yeah. Heaven forbid if we get more of an aftermarket. Wouldn't want that now would we.

We're also talking about a company that will sell them 365 days a year. I don't see how Rich getting him to do this is a bad thing.

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You know, people always seem to find something to complain about. I'm trying to get us a reasonably priced intake system, and more people seem to complain than embrace the fact that companies may still be interested in making new parts for a 10 year old car. This is just an alternative to Richard's tube, when he's making them. This will be available for order at any time, not just during a limited run.

For the price, you can't beat it. $160 will get you the tube, all the way to the MAF, a new filter, and put your filter in the fenderwell, for cold air. I see it as being a hell of a deal, compared to the options that are there now. I guess I just expect too much from people some times.
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I would be interested. I don't like the look of the Civic tube. Keep us updated on this.

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Hell, I would buy one! Sounds like a good deal to me. It would be nice to have a tube that matches up without having to modify a bunch of crap. Thanks for looking into it Rich!

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Definitely get this thing made. It'd be nice to be able to buy a cold-air intake instead of trying to fab one up.

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I would be interested. I think it is great when people who can do things like this step up and try something different. One thought is what about those who want to keep that airbox for whatever reasons? Just asking, that's all. But I would be interested to check out what comes.
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When I'm there I will see if he will take measurements of where the MAF is supposed to be (I have the airbox too) and see if he wants to make a full and a MAF-TB only tube as well. If he keeps the MAF in the same place for the full tube I don't see why it would be a problem to just order the MAF-TB piece.

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My thoughts exactly.
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Sounds like a plan.
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Right on Rich95XR7!! Somebody's gotta "step up" and help out the '94 & '95 4.6 guys!! Our Violin cases suck sooooo bad!! I'd definately be interested in one of these!! I hope it happens...

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Sounds great Rich. (Even though I don't have a 94/95). A suggestion though. They may have already thought about it, but what about some sort of plate that bolts to where the stock airbox bolts to really seal the filter into outside air? I'm not sure how much of a PITA it would be but something to consider, I think. It'd also look a bit cleaner, IMO.
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Their kits come with a plate to cover the hole in the fender the box feeds from.

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Their kits come with a plate to cover the hole in the fender the box feeds from.
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If they leave the MAF in the stock place, then they could also put the airbox replacement with a 96-98 stang maf-tb and the 96-97 t-bird will have a full tube solution as well.

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id be interested in one if they can ship to canada
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I have a Densecharger cold air setup that goes from the maf into the fender well, the stock air box is removed a carbon plate covers the bottom, pretty nice setup the only addition is the tube from the maf to the tb. Look at it like this to get the whole thing from the tb to the fender well that is a good deal. Personally I like my RM tube and won't get rid of it, but they're not available all the time. Oh yea, the installation instructions alone make the switch easy and you don't need to experiment, everything is prefit so nothing is left to chance.

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I will be meeting with Mr. DeMolet Thursday after 2:30pm. I probably won't be able to give an update until I get back from Nats on sunday. He won't be doing much other than taking measurements anyway.

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so this tube will go from the TB to the MAF...then have a spot for the 2 sensors to be plugged into...then go from the MAF 90 degree bent tube down through the fenderwell where the cone filter will be?....pics pics pics!!...hahaah

edit - i know that one sensor is on the MAF but where will the other sensor connect to if the airbox is removed?
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i think this is a great thing for the t-bird community
what people dont understand is when you use the civic pipe, exaust pipe or other
metal tubes, they heat up and retain heat and your air charge temp goes up,
which causes detonation, the computer sees this and in turn retards your timing
effectivley dropping horsepower to where you were in the first place (most cases lower).

thats why they are rubber and plastic to begin with = minimal heat retention=cooler air=denser charge= more oxygen per cubic foot of air= more timing= what we are looking for------>more power

and its only $160 dollars
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I would think that the air coming in wouldn't have time to heat up much before it gets to the inake since it's moving, but hey what do I know?

I'm all for this new intake tube. It's a good idea and I'm glad someone is showing interest in making them for the '94-5's. Unfortunately for me, there was no other choice but the Civic tube when it came time for the upgrade. I don't plan on letting that $100 in parts go to waste, but maybe time will convince me later down the road if these tubes are already on the market.

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100$ in parts?...i only spent 50
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100$ in parts?...i only spent 50
Yes...

Civic Tube - $40 including tax
intake hose - $25
PCV breather - $10
'96 intake tube - $25

And this is not includng the heater hose and 90° PCV "elbow" I have yet to pick up. Woe is me.

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It's awesome to see someone like yourself with the resources taking some initiative. Count me in 100% for this, even if it means I have to take out a $160 loan from the bank lol. I'm willing to help out in any way possible, including some local PR. Thanks again Rich, we all appreciate it.

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