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So about all this turbo talk...

How much would it be exactly to get the rear turbo setup that has been shown lately? Would it be cheaper than AED's blower? Would injector upgrades be required?

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How much would it be exactly to get the rear turbo setup that has been shown lately? Would it be cheaper than AED's blower? Would injector upgrades be required?

Just curious.

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i'm not sure either but one thing i'm sure is the satisfactionpoint will when up.
also you need to upgrade your guts first before even try the turbo setup.

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Your first question I cant answer since I have never set up a rear mounted turbo...

Would it be cheaper than AED's blower?

Nope, unless you got a good deal on the turbo and you were gonna fab up the piping yourself. Turbos are generally more expensive to set up. Because youre not only working on the intake, youre dealing with the exhaust as well...

Would injector upgrades be required?

Yup. You would need to install new injectors with a supercharger as well...
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Well, I built the system in question obviously. The goal is to come in around the same price as the AED system. $3500-$4000 It's going to depend a lot on what it costs to get the individual tubes bent or welded up.

I have to work out some issues with the piping and the tune, but overall, it's running really nice as it is. The best part is that this system will work with V6 or V8 cars. Could even fit the Mark VIII's with not much adjustment. I'll play with that later.

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I was laying under the car a couple days ago, and got to thinking about twin turbos. It really looks like there is enough room to put a T3 on each side, you'd need to fab headers similar to the Kooks but a bit shorter. Those little units only measure about 5.5" in diameter and 8.5" overall length. A single super 60 trim is good to 325hp, so twins would be enough for most anyone. These things also only use 2" cold side piping so that makes it easy to get through small spaces and tight bends. I really think someone could pull this off without too much trouble if they were truly interested in trying it. A 5.0 car would be gravy with all that room.
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I have another plan in mind for a TT setup Kris that will leave tons of room, but it'll be down then road a bit once I have a forged motor in the bay. The extra piping may require the tubular K-Member though. Just have to see on that.

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I've done some calculations and turbo map plotting and found that a 62-1 w/ ~.8 AR matches our engine quite well.




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Well, I built the system in question obviously. The goal is to come in around the same price as the AED system. $3500-$4000 It's going to depend a lot on what it costs to get the individual tubes bent or welded up.

I have to work out some issues with the piping and the tune, but overall, it's running really nice as it is. The best part is that this system will work with V6 or V8 cars. Could even fit the Mark VIII's with not much adjustment. I'll play with that later.
And BTW, it looks like a monster prototype. That looks like it took some serious time in engineering, or there was some trial and effort there. You have to be at least close as good as it looked. Wish my job didn't keep me from attending things like that. Aside from being horribly sorry on how many people I didn't get to meet, I didn't get to see my first turbo 4.6 Thunderbird.

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Thanks Dan. I have MANY hours of measuring, cutting and welding all the tubing together to make it all work. It's not perfect by any means, but MOST of it is really well done. I have spent untold hours underneath the car examining what will fit where, etc. There are a few things I want to change, but for the most part, it's ready. I need to work on the ground clearance around the trans cross member and for the wastegate, but other than that it just needs more testing and tuning.

Once I'm satisfied that the design is 100% sound, I'll get in touch with some shops to see what it would cost to duplicate the tubing. I'm going to get some real good detailed shots underneath once I get the tubes powder coated and pressure wash the underside. There's already at least one magazine waiting on an article on her.

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Thanks Dan. I have MANY hours of measuring, cutting and welding all the tubing together to make it all work. It's not perfect by any means, but MOST of it is really well done. I have spent untold hours underneath the car examining what will fit where, etc. There are a few things I want to change, but for the most part, it's ready. I need to work on the ground clearance around the trans cross member and for the wastegate, but other than that it just needs more testing and tuning.

Once I'm satisfied that the design is 100% sound, I'll get in touch with some shops to see what it would cost to duplicate the tubing. I'm going to get some real good detailed shots underneath once I get the tubes powder coated and pressure wash the underside. There's already at least one magazine waiting on an article on her.
Well like I said, the work shows. That's love, not a passing interest there.

And the magazine thing. Don't keep no secrets! I gotta see that one!

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I am in talks with someone about prototyping a turbo system for his MN12 right now.
And greenbird is dead on with the 62-1.


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