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4.6 Parts ... Hard to find.

I got my '94 -Bird 'bout Five years ago. So much pride as you do know wanted to do so much to her,you know what I mean. But, with all the ideas in the world there just is'nt enough money to go around. So I mentally compiled a dream list of Go-fast parts to add to our beloved MN12. I positively remember a company that had the most excellant exhaust systems known to the Thunderbird/Cougar community,by the name of MN12 Performance but he's not doing it full time anymore a shame really.
Then I found out MAC Performance had a Cold-Air Kit (a really nice one too) it was to die for. It was made of polished aluminium or something they had it for the '96 and up cars I was so excited that someday I might be able to purchase such goodies and share them with others in the Club. But to no avail, these innovative Go-fast parts are no more. I don't know for the life of me why High Performance companies ignore such an incredible automobile like ours. If anyone out there has any idea where a guy can get these coveted parts ...PLEASE LET US KNOW!

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Talking Try these links:

www.speedfreak.cc for exhaust

http://home.flash.net/~rfm2/ for intake air tube.

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Then I found out MAC Performance had a Cold-Air Kit (a really nice one too) it was to die for. It was made of polished aluminium or something they had it for the '96 and up cars I was so excited that someday I might be able to purchase such goodies and share them with others in the Club. But to no avail, these innovative Go-fast parts are no more. I don't know for the life of me why High Performance companies ignore such an incredible automobile like ours. If anyone out there has any idea where a guy can get these coveted parts ...PLEASE LET US KNOW!

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The 96-97's breathe very well as it is, the only gains one would see with the MAC intake is A) the 90degree bend right before the MAF throwing off the transfer function and lying to the EEC about how much air the engine is getting. And B) Make your wallet a lot lighter after shelling out the big bucks for it. For looks, yes it's good, for "high performance" you need to start looking at things bigger than intake/exhaust.

for a 94-95 though, the Violin case can be a restriction, so I would go with the Richard M tube unless you want to make one yourself.

And honestly, even if it wasn't for the bend I don't see why anyone would want to go through the hassle of tearing in through the wheel well every time you needed to clean the air filter.

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Richard M is full of [email protected]#$. $150 for an intake tube, he's gotta be joking. What a rip off. You could go to home depot or somewhere and get some rubber tubing for about $20.00. Don't buy from Richard M.
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Richard M is full of [email protected]#$. $150 for an intake tube, he's gotta be joking. What a rip off. You could go to home depot or somewhere and get some rubber tubing for about $20.00. Don't buy from Richard M.
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Richard M is full of [email protected]#$. $150 for an intake tube, he's gotta be joking. What a rip off. You could go to home depot or somewhere and get some rubber tubing for about $20.00. Don't buy from Richard M.
And you say "Don't buy from Richard M." why? Have you had problems with him in the past? Did he take your nachos? You can keep your ghetto Home Depot intake...there are people who want something nicer than a piece of rubber. Lets see you make a piece like he makes and sell them....atleast he's trying to help people!
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I know for my 96 he told me he could get me a tube for $150. And thats connecting to a 75mm TB and a 90mm MAF. Where can you go to get a custom job like that? I know MAC or someone sells a kit for a 96 but wants more then $150




Damn cheap people, Why is everyone so damn cheap? fixing up a car for a hobby is not going to be cheap so DEAL WITH IT.
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Let me also add....$240 to get this custom made locally two years ago for my old Cougar...
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I expect you to back up your statement.
I have not seen mandrel bent oval exhaust tubing in 16 gauge steel at any home improvement store. You will also not find the correct PCV fittings, high temp reinforced smooth bore hose and all fitting under the hood for the '94-'95 cars there either.

BTW, I have no knowledge of you evaluating one or otherwise, so if you would so kindly retract your statement then i will not have to explain how much it cost to TIG weld the compound angle required to get it to line up and look soooo nice.

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Stupid....

...comments like that are what drive good people from this board. Why in the world would you want to say some stupid CRAP like that. The tube is sweet....I was quoted prices for custom mandrel bent intakes in the Tampa area for $200 plus...I think that I got a quality intake for a reasonable price from someone who is very much trusted and knowledgable of the MN12. So unless you care to elaborate on your ridiculous comments, then keep them to yourself. I happen to enjoy being able to get valuable information about T-Birds here, without having to deal with the stupid comments of kids driving thier fathers cars who are pissed off that daddy wont let them mod the car. So when your father lets you start to mod the car, then you will be calling RichardM for one of his intakes...nuff said....sorry....

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Where does everone get those hose pieces used as connector on those tubes? I need to get an intake tube and need to find those pieces. Im gonna have someone i know make one for me hopefully or I will be calling richard up.


Hey, can we still call it the richardM tube or is that something against that now? no more "-"mod for the trans
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Okay...Here is a better picture....

I was sent an email telling me that I had a nice looking car, but that it was tooooo dirty, especially the engine. Well, I took some time today cleaning my engine. I think that it looks much better....Well, AverageJoe...thanks for the advice...how does it look now?


It is a little bit better...still not perfect...but at least it is cleaner


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I was sent an email telling me that I had a nice looking car, but that it was tooooo dirty, especially the engine. Well, I took some time today cleaning my engine. I think that it looks much better....Well, AverageJoe...thanks for the advice...how does it look now?
You missed a spot!

Kidding.. looks alot cleaner, and I've seen much dirtier than yours was to begin with.



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Ok Nick, now you can just bite me. :p I can only wish that my car looked that good. Or that I could even afford a RichardM tube. (are we still allowed to call it that?) Although I do still love your car. BTW, has anyone considered dynoing their stock 94-95 TBird before and after the RichardM tube to see if it makes a true difference? (I'll front the money for the dyno session if someone will front the money for a RichardM tube for "evaluation" purposes )

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Just a little push!!

That is all it took for me to clean that engine bay. I just needed to take the time to do it. Thanks for the compliments AverageJoe...

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If you people want to get ripped off go ahead, but some people on this forum go to college and have to pay the bills along with keeping their car working. I don't come from a rich family that pays my bills so I have to go with cheap and effective. The only reason I even have this car is because my friend's dad had a car lot. Got my bird for $1,000, and i'm still paying the bank back. Go ahead and pay $150 for an intake tube and give Richard M. a profit of about $100. Have a nice time spending your money.
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If you people want to get ripped off go ahead, but some people on this forum go to college and have to pay the bills along with keeping their car working. I don't come from a rich family that pays my bills so I have to go with cheap and effective. The only reason I even have this car is because my friend's dad had a car lot. Got my bird for $1,000, and i'm still paying the bank back. Go ahead and pay $150 for an intake tube and give Richard M. a profit of about $100. Have a nice time spending your money.
and what does mac sell their cai for?? about the same price. so yea ill spend my money with Richard anyday because his stuff is nicer than the mac stuff.

you should try finding stuff for a 66 tbird. haha
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And that is the main point against bb101's post. If you have the money you can buy whatever you want. Being expensive is all point-of-view. $150 for a good part is not expensive for me. But no one should tell anyone not to buy from someone simply because they can't afford what's being sold. I'm confusing myself.
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If you people want to get ripped off go ahead, but some people on this forum go to college and have to pay the bills along with keeping their car working. I don't come from a rich family that pays my bills so I have to go with cheap and effective. The only reason I even have this car is because my friend's dad had a car lot. Got my bird for $1,000, and i'm still paying the bank back. Go ahead and pay $150 for an intake tube and give Richard M. a profit of about $100. Have a nice time spending your money.
...why dont you make sure you know what you are talking about before you go spouting off like that. There are a lot of members here that work hard for what they have, myself included. I admire the fact that you are going to college, and you are keeping track of where your money goes. No, I dont have anyone paying my bills. Does that make me a bad person, because I am now established in the world, make an above average income, and decide to spend $150 on something that I like? I dont think so. I believe that the price is fair in the market compared to the other choices. So, you have been involved in building the intake with RichardM? So, then of course you know how much it costs him to build the intake as far as materials? And then of course you can determine exactly how much his time is worth? Well, I would have to say that congrats to RichardM if he is turning a $100 profit on each intake. He has found a way to produce a product with competitive pricing, and make a profit. Let see I believe that is called retail. Of course if the materials cost him $50, and it takes him a total of 1.25 hours to produce the tube (just pulling numbers), and at an average shop rate of $50-70/hour, now how much profit is he making? I dont have any idea what RichardM does for a living, so I have no idea how much his time is worth.

Congratulations on going to college, making a wise decision on purchasing a car, and working hard to pay it off. However there are also people on this forum who work hard, earn good money, and choose to spend it HOWEVER they choose, so how about keeping your comments to yourself, because RichardM is a well respected member of this club.

I think I have said my peace now...

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You don't even need 16gauge steel for an intake tube. How often are people showing off their engines to other people unless it's a show car. If you have a show car then I can understand buying an intake from richard m. When it comes down to performance, cheaper rubber tubes do the same as the steel ones. I saw your car Nick nice body kit.
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Why do some people think making a car go fast is cheap? Im only 19 and make good money and its really easy to spend a whole pay check ($1000) on car parts. I do have bills and everything too and work hard for my money. Fixing up car is an expensive hobby so if you dont want to spend money then maybe you so go start sewing or something. To get a bird going fast (i mean in the 13's) its really easy to spend a couple $1000 to get there. And thats really the only way to get there, without nitrous. And if you want to drag race, the faster you make your car the more you have to spend to make your car safe. I think its faster then 13.99 you have to wear a helmet. So look in the summit catalog ($300) If you go faster then i think 11.99 you need a roll cage, (try finding one for a thunderbird, I haven't)

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This is not about going fast for me. I'm trying to save money on fuel. I would have got a civic if I could have found one for the same price. You can fill those up and drive everywhere without going to get some more gas. Someday when I get some money and I want to go fast, I'll buy a Chevy. Maybee a 650 hp monster chevelle. To get that out of a T-bird you'd have to get a whole new engine. Until then I'll be economic.
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Richard M is full of [email protected]#$. $150 for an intake tube, he's gotta be joking. What a rip off. You could go to home depot or somewhere and get some rubber tubing for about $20.00. Don't buy from Richard M.
I myself have do not have a RM tube BUT I have met the man (in RI Ithink you came to a meet) and he was replacing tubes because HE didnt like how it fit on other peeps cars not that they complained he did this on his OWN name a company that would do that? Try to make a HIGH quality tube on your spare time and see what you would sell it for? Have a bad day at work TOUGH need to get those orders out want to work on your car TOUGH! need to get those orders out.... I think we need more peeps like RM who give up there time and effort for the benifit of other [email protected] owners what have you done for us BigBird101.. what modifications have you designed? I say make one cheaper and sell it to the club on your own time OR Apolige to RM and to the club which you insulted as a whole and retract that statement.

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Just about everyone in this club does stuff to there car. Its just from a chip to a engine swap with a blower. It depends what people can afford and do. And thats fine that you don't want to do anything to your car but dont rip on others for doing things. What is the point of you coming to this site if (from what it sounds like) you really dont care to much about your bird? There are people here that spent $1000 on their car and are out there washing there car everyday, trying to make it look the best.

So a good question would be is, Why do you come to this site? what do you get out of it?

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This is not about going fast for me. I'm trying to save money on fuel. I would have got a civic if I could have found one for the same price. You can fill those up and drive everywhere without going to get some more gas. Someday when I get some money and I want to go fast, I'll buy a Chevy. Maybee a 650 hp monster chevelle. To get that out of a T-bird you'd have to get a whole new engine. Until then I'll be economic.
you know what i always find amusing? anyone, yes anyone, who will spend any negligable amount of money on any car in order to save money on gas. i can see maybe the $50 for a K&N for better gas mileage... MAYBE. anything more is just silly if thats the outlook you have.

more amusing is anyone who spends money on their car to make it faster then complains about gas mileage.

i dont care if its $150 for an intake tube, $300 for a chip, or $3500 for a new engine. complaining about bad mileage or boasting about good mileage when youve spent so much on modifications is just silly.

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I come to this site because my bird is old. It always seems to breakdown. Since I don't have much money I can't just take it to the mechanic to get it fixed. I have to fix it my self. This site does have some good info that can help me fix my car. I think I will buy my Chevy, because Chevy is better. They will tear up ford and their T-Birds. Any V8 stock camaro from 90 to 02 that they built would smoke these V8 birds. Face it Chevy's are the best if you want speed. If you want a slow car go for ford or dodge or imports. T-Birds are big heavy granny cars.
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