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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-22-2006, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
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what trans to put into my 94 bird with explorer engine, need the engine too

i am finally able to do this 02-04 explorer swap, i just need to buy everything and hope i can figure it all out.. I really want a 5 speed manual trans to throw in there, what will fit without modding or at least as little as possible because i dont know what im doing. An ex-mechanic will be assisting me though so hopfully we can breeze through this..

The trans needs to be beefy because i do plan on getting the best quarter mile times possible, so some hard shifts will happen. I think i will get better gass mileage with manual trans and probally better quarter mile time with experience, This is correct right? I just plain like to shift too.

I have not purchased the engine yet, greenleaf is a little high with prices at 1500-2500. WHat does this mean in the description on greenleaf?
"VIN W (4.6L)- XXK" vurses this description "-4.6,AOD,4X4,VIN W (4.6L)-ND MLS,RVLC/NG"
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-22-2006, 03:02 PM
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If you're wanting faster 1/4 mile times, a properly built automatic transmission will be better than a manual.

However, if you're just wanting to row through the gears, I believe the transmission most use is the T45.

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The T45 isn't that complicated of a swap. The hardest thing is the shifter extension box, however it is possible to not use the extension and just modify the center console and shifter handle, however this doesn't have the factory look that most people want. The other option is to use an M5R2, which is the trans found in the SCs, however on a 4.6 you would have to use a case from a 5-speed truck with the 4.6 and then use the internals and tail shaft from an SC trans, then use the SC master and hydraulic throwout bearing. This would be an easier install, however it requires you to buy 2 transmissions and make one out of them. Also the M5R2 doesn't shift as smoothly as the T45, so if you want to speed through the gears, the T45 would be better. Also the M5R2 can handle more power than a stock T45, however with just an explorer swap, either trans would hold up just fine.

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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-28-2006, 05:11 PM Thread Starter
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is the '02 - '04 mountianeer the same engine as the explorer? If not is the install the same? for some reason i though the montianeer had like 20 less hp but after googling it a bit it has the same rating, i just want to make sure its the same engine / same reliability and simplicity for a swap before i buy it..
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I have a very low mile 04 Explorer long block for sale.

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i am intrested, but i dont know what parts i will need to get if its just the block and not the whole engine assembly.. like the chip and w/e else might not be included.... all the explorers 02 -04 are aluminum long block?
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I have a very low mile 04 Explorer long block for sale.

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Hey now. You said you was gonna hold onto that.

Is the 04 Aluminum too?
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