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Trick Flow Intake Manifold

I saw a pic of this piece today so it seems that it is really going to come to be! I thought the 2v was left for dead by the manufacturers. Has anyone got any solid info on a projected intro date or any data that this manifold has shown? It seems to have a long runner after the TB that enters the lower section near the firewall and has shorter runners but I sure would like a better pic and any info or even rumors at this point! Thanks, mark
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you email Trick Flow? they are making it....I assume you mean the manifold that looks like the Bullitt, right?




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The 2 valve aftermarket is out now because people are getting the cars cheaper and are actually modding them.

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Yes, seeing that manifold really got me thinking maybe our motors will start to get a bigger aftermarket like the 302's have. I would like some more info on the trick flow intake as well. Next thing you know a good aftermarket head will be out too!
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Ah, but what of the p-51 intake and patriot performance heads?
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The P-51 intake seems mostly geared for track used only, from what I've seen it only gives gains in very high RPM power, which isnt very useful for a car geared for street use like mine. As far as I know the patriot heads are just PnP'd stockers but I could be wrong on that.
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iv herd alot of ppl say that the p-51 is worthless but this trick flow sounds interrsting.

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I knew a guy who put a P-51 on his Mustang. He lost anywhere from 20-30 RWHP over the old PI, and no matter how they tuned it, they couldn't get the power back. I would never put one on my car, although I would like to see this intake's possibliities. It looks like it might even bolt in for a PI, since it appears to have a more agressive bend in its inlet...I mean, you'd have to transition to the oval throttle body, but to me at least, it really looks like this has a 90 degree bend in it, while the Bullit has more like a 45. This may eliminate the EGR foolishness with the Bullit. You'd have to rig up your throttle cable and cruise control though...

Am I off the rocker here, or do you guys see that too?

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i called patriot today for an inquiry on heads, and they are just PNP PI heads, different valves, different springs, and some bowl work in the combustion chamber.

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Yeah I was pretty sure about the P-51 and Patriot Heads, the P-51 doesnt seem to be a good option at all and some true aftermarktet heads would be nice.
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patriot=**** work with chinese springs.




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It looks like it might even bolt in for a PI, since it appears to have a more agressive bend in its inlet...I mean, you'd have to transition to the oval throttle body, but to me at least, it really looks like this has a 90 degree bend in it, while the Bullit has more like a 45. This may eliminate the EGR foolishness with the Bullit. You'd have to rig up your throttle cable and cruise control though...

Am I off the rocker here, or do you guys see that too?

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I see that too as well as an issue with the Trick Flo not having a place for the alternator bracket. I would really like to see the production piece as it may be worth experimenting with.

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patriot=**** work with chinese springs.

there valve springs suck? ok, well what about their port work? and why are their heads so crappy...i mean if its only the springs that are bad, then get some comp springs or crower springs.

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It is more than just springs that are the issue with Patroit heads. I suggest you go over to Modular Depot and do a search on Patroit heads over there. You will find all kinds of problems associated with their heads. They are cheap heads to buy and that should be an indicator on their quality.

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Unless they changed their cutting methods, they still cut back the valve guides to help their heads flow more. That's shoddy work at best...

Other heads out there (namely Renegade and Fox Lake) have really good flow numbers while still keeping the valve fully supported. There is a reason why Patriot has good flow numbers for the prices they ask...you get what you pay for.

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yeah the reichard racing manifold..another race only piece. They found a significant loss of torque with that manifold in a MM & FF article when it came out. Peak power even past 6000 was up but torque numbers were down a bit. Cool manifold thou and there are optional tops. One that fits the round throttles, one that fits an oval throttle and one that fits a carb. Heres a link to the typhoon intake...http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/

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the professional products typhoon is crap also.




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We are looking to have the intake manifold ready to ship around the end of February 2007...

Trick Flow 4.6L 2V Track Heat Intake Manifold


General Specifications

• Made in the U.S.A
• Material—A319 Aluminum alloy.
• Designed for 1999-2004 4.6L Mustang GT ( modifications required for 1996-’98 models ).
• Fits 1999-2004 Power Improvement head ports.
• 75mm Throttle Body Inlet.
• Symmetrical high velocity intake port design.
• 3-PC design.
• Accepts, but does not require aftermarket high-flow fuel rails.
• 2001 Special Edition Mustang performance when used on unmodified Mustang GT without costly additional components.
• Increased performance potential over similar more expensive manifolds.
• RPM Range: 1500-6500 when used with un-ported cylinder heads.
• RPM Range: 1500-7200 when used with aftermarket or ported cylinder heads.
• Same overall height as stock plastic lower intake manifold/ upper plenum assembly to minimize hood clearance issues.
• Complete kit with detailed installation instructions for 1999-2004 4.6L Mustang GT.
• Part Number: TFS-51800002 ( Silver metalic powder coated finish)
• Part Number: TFS-518B0002 ( Natural finish )
• Part Number: TFS-51811002 ( Black powder coated finish )
• Estimated M.S.R.P ( < or = ) $ 799.00 ( Available Early Spring 2007 )


Additional Track Heat 2V Intake Manifold Components from Trick Flow
• High-Flow extruded aluminum fuel rails and mounting brackets: TFS-5188000R
• Twin 57mm throttle body Track Heat manifold. (Available Late Spring 2007 )
• 5.4L Track Heat 1999-2004 Mustang GT manifold. ( Available Summer 2007 )

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is it taller than hte Bullitt? the bird guys who run the bullitt, have to hack relief cutsi n our hoods to clear the manifold.




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I really hope this trick flow turns out to be a good manifold with the kind of gains most on here would want. Right now the only option I have when I do my headswap is PI manifold. I guess I will have to wait and see if the price difference between a PI Intake and this Trick Flow Intake is worth the cost.
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Hey Art haven't seen you since the PRI 2 years back. I was the guy talking about 4.6L heads with you along with 347 stuff. Worked for Bigfoot 4x4 and was going to school at the time.

when will we see pics of this?
you decided which magazine gets to test it first? I am writing for Modified Mustangs now and would love to get in on that.
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ok, enough of the marketing ****....lets get down to the real info. Wwhat are the gain numbers, the Bullitt over the GT doesnt impress me. Does the throttle and cruise control linkage bolt up with no problems with the existing cables? what about the EGR tube?




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ok, enough of the marketing ****....lets get down to the real info. Wwhat are the gain numbers, the Bullitt over the GT doesnt impress me. Does the throttle and cruise control linkage bolt up with no problems with the existing cables? what about the EGR tube?
ok a reputable manufacturer signs up for our forum and the first thing you do is bash him wtf? (makes tccoa look like a real great place to try new ideas) The damn product is not even out yet,

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ok a reputable manufacturer signs up for our forum and the first thing you do is bash him wtf? (makes tccoa look like a real great place to try new ideas) The damn product is not even out yet,
i didnt bash him. Cutting and pasting the same info that is in the new 5.0 mag doesnt help. I wanna know real gains, professional products said the same thing about its manifold. I want the real, practicle info, i read everything he posted two weeks ago in a magazine. I want to know if the front of the manifold where the throttle body mounts is lower than the bullitt, what about the back section of the plenum, what about the EGR location. Does the factory 96-98 alternator clear it? what bracket has to be used?




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For a $1000 you can have this one. Hopefully the TFS will be cheaper with simular results.

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We are looking to have the intake manifold ready to ship around the end of February 2007...

• 75mm Throttle Body Inlet.
First of all, thanks for taking the time to register and post. I have a number of questions for you.

Is the twin TB version still set for production?
How is the throttle cable bracket going to attatch?
Where will the alternator's bracket attach?
Is there enough material to port the runners?
Is there enough material to shorten the runners?
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i didnt bash him. Cutting and pasting the same info that is in the new 5.0 mag doesnt help. I wanna know real gains, professional products said the same thing about its manifold. I want the real, practicle info, i read everything he posted two weeks ago in a magazine. I want to know if the front of the manifold where the throttle body mounts is lower than the bullitt, what about the back section of the plenum, what about the EGR location. Does the factory 96-98 alternator clear it? what bracket has to be used?
I really felt your attitude was much better here, and those are good questions that i want the answers to as well. Thanks for re-wording!

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The after market intake manifolds for the 4.6 are still outrageously expensive by any stretch of the imagination.

For the price being spent, I would go for a pi conversion or add a power adder. $800 for an intake vs $400 for nos, $40 a refill, and, guaranteed kick in the *** when you need it...

As for the 4.6 becoming like the 302, dream on, the 4.6 is still in its infant stages compared to the SBF 302, the 302 has been around for DECADES.

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As for the 4.6 becoming like the 302, dream on, the 4.6 is still in its infant stages compared to the SBF 302......
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