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how to go about installing pi cams..

first of all im doing this in ohio since its where i go to school.... so if any of you wanted to help its kinda out of the question..

i purchased a set of pi cams with bolt on sprockets from quick cat, all i want to know is how about to go installing these cams, is it as simple as..

remove valve covers..
unbolt sprockets from cam..
remove bearing caps from cams-head..

then re assemble in reverse order??

as i said, bolt on sprockets, 96 4.6.

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should be as long as you have the tool to do it that way.

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Cough cough I'm pretty sure you have to take the front cover off in order to get the timing chain off and to set the timing after the new cams are installed! Im almost positive you have too but not 100%.
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cough cough, did you check out the link i gave him?
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cough cough no sorry!
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so it looks like im gonna add another 30 bucks to my cam install budget..no problem..

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Ya but think of all the time you will save not having to remove the front cover and all the crap that goes along with that.

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so it looks like im gonna add another 30 bucks to my cam install budget..no problem..

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Hey did you end up buying that tool?
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waiting for christmas money!..then the cams will go in.. im a broke college student on a budget

why do you think i waited so long to get the cams cheap from you...hahaha

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LOL that's cool with me I needed to get rid of them. If you bought that tool I was gonna ask to borrow it a day but I took my valva covers off last night and found out it aint a lifter or rocker it's inside the front cover so I won't even need the tool.
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cough cough, take off the front cover and do it right or run the risk on PTV.




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Yeah in my case the front cover is coming off!
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alright....

lets say for sake i dont buy this tool...what all is needed when taking off the front cover..

obviously just by pulling the valve covers i need new gaskets, or at least i know i do...

so i pull the timing cover off, what else would i need? im talking anything, tools, gaskets, rtv, whatever?
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cough cough, take off the front cover and do it right or run the risk on PTV.
Just a simple question. If the tool does its job, and the chain doesn't come off of any of the timing gears, how would the timing have changed from when it was set at the factory? Of course if the tool does slip and the chain comes loose, then you'd just have to do it the long way anyway, so you're still ok right?


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thats what i figured^
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im sure the tool would work just fine. mechanics on flat rate have to make their money somehow right.
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alright....

lets say for sake i dont buy this tool...what all is needed when taking off the front cover..

obviously just by pulling the valve covers i need new gaskets, or at least i know i do...

so i pull the timing cover off, what else would i need? im talking anything, tools, gaskets, rtv, whatever?
you shouldn't need any gaskets or RTV. The thing about that way is you gotta take more stuff off.
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I'm trying to learn too, so I have a question also.

If you take the cover off, don't you have to have yet another tool (or a pair of them) to keep the cams from rotating when you take the chains off? That's what I've read, so now I'm really confused (what's new about that, lol).

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I was reading the instructions on the AndersonFordMotorsports tool. It looks like it'd be a very good idea to have a second set of hands helping out with the swap. One to install the cam and one to hold the tool safe and steady.


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well i purchased that tool, i should have it by Friday, if i get a chance ill take a pic of it and post it online, then next weekend i should be installing the cams.. so ill let you guys know how it turns out.

oh yea, then if it works well, if anyone wants to use it you can buy it from me or just borrow it...
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Sounds great. Let me know how it works out, and I'd be happy to pay shipping on it both ways to borrow it when I put my cams in (Unless of course it'd be cheaper to just buy it!). And if you'd like to just bring the tool to Southeast KS in person to show me how to use it, that'd be cool to. Planning on spending a weekend in May working on the car with a bunch of KS, MO, IA members. (OK to, but haven't heard from any yet)


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I'm trying to learn too, so I have a question also.

If you take the cover off, don't you have to have yet another tool (or a pair of them) to keep the cams from rotating when you take the chains off? That's what I've read, so now I'm really confused (what's new about that, lol).

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Pending on the cam I used a adjustable wrench to hold the cam.
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in the instructions, it says to compress the followers in a vise to bleed them down, is this necessary, or if so could this be done with a c-clamp?
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