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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 11-05-2003, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
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MSD Ignition?

Ok I Have 1994 bird 3.8 N/A I know there is somebody on here who has the MSD igniton I already have the coil but I was wondering which model you used and did you notice any diferences any help is greatly appreciated thanks Justin

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Doesn't look like anyone has it. or they havn't seen the post yet.

I'm interested in doing this though. What kind of ignition are you running Justin? I don't even know where to start when I do this.

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post #3 of 34 (permalink) Old 11-06-2003, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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I just have the stock ignition right now but MSD ignition coil I want to get one of the msd series 6 boxes and hook it up I know it shouldnt be that hard and I know where to get the harnesses. yeah I would like to go to marshalltown dont have a clue where it is though Ill talk to mike if I go are you for sure going? its on the 15th so Im off from work thats a plus it would be sweet to meet everyone never been to any meets Justin

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Okay, I'll have to look into that. You have DIS so you can get the ignition boxes, but I have a distributor.

I am FOR SURE going to Marshalltown so I hope to see ya there. Go to www.sccoia.org and then "upcoming events" for directions to get there and there's also a map of the area.

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I think Leland Jacobson has an MSD ignition box.

Yeah, here's a thread:http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.p...&highlight=MSD

If you search for more threads on the topic, I'm sure you will find them.

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if you have a distributor you can buy a ford tfi adapter you plug into the coil then plug into the box is a really easy install. go to msd's site the directions are posted there, i would go with at least a msd 6a box

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So how about an MSD TFI coil with a 6AL box? I know I don't need a rev limiter but it just sounds cool hehe. Plus it has rubber shock mounts.

I remember seeing an MSD box in Bill Stroniaks engine bay in the car gallery.

I've heard something about MSD products spontaneously catching on fire and crapping out. Is that only common with the v8 DIS stuff?

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Hey Thomas I have a distributor and in the ealier post is the harness I was talking about rzimmerl but yeah I would at least go 6a but they are all 6 series ignition just different one get what Im saying. To all who has the new setup for there ignitin what differences I know it has to start up better?

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Justin,

Mike usually leads a "procession" from CR to Marshalltown on US 30. Unless I get a new 2nd job, I'm going. I could hook up with you if you want. I've been to the meeting place and the food it really good.

Justin, working tomorrow? I have to check with Mike, but I have to get some parts at Junge saturday the 8th. We could meet. I'll check this board often tonight.

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Yeah im off saturday gotta replace wheel cylinder and rear shoes Yeah I need to get me another job being 18 and still fast food sucks man oh but with the brake thing I get impatient and end up working on it at 2 oclock in the morning so I might be done already well see oh and Thomas Im pretty sure Im going with the MSD 6A igniton and the harness then well see whats doin not expecting much but hey Ill talk to you guys later justin

PS Yeah PCD Sounds good just gotta get these brakes changed shouldnt take long what time you hopin to be in town?

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Well I guess I'll just wait and see what you think about the 6a and then if you're impressions on it are good I'll buy it along with the coil. You're 18? haha youngin. I'm 19.
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Justin,

Don't think I'm coming. Junge won't have my Belt Tensioner pully til monday, and my alternator won't be ready until Monday. Unless something worth the trip pops, I'll wait til next weekend.

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What benifits would something form MSD provide from our cars? I thought since as long as you didn't have anything radical like Superchargers or high compression you were wasting your time and money?
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PCD did you break the pulley off the tensioner like i did yeah I went to ford and they wanted to sell me the whole thing forget that all the junkyards out here have bunch of them thats ok well see ya some other time man I work only Monday -Friday now Oh and Jemplayer not getting for huge power man Im planning on going vortech in the future Justin

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I ditto the vortech plans. It's all about the prepping I've opened my exhaust a bit more than my NA 3.8 needs and ported the intakes and a few other things. Also have an 80mm LMAF waiting for the vortech.
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Justin,

See you next week. The way I'm seeing my schedule, I've got to pop over early at Mike's before the meet to get my parts. If I have time, and the weather out side isn't too bad, I'll throw them on before going to Marshalltown.

Thomas,

Why don't you put that LMAF on now?? If you opened up your intakes, why not fill the hole?

Jemplayer,

My philosophy is that when a part wears out, breaks, or I have spare cash, I go for the best upgrade I can get. I've got a friend that swears by MSD. He's got a 4.6 though.

Another point, many people say that there is no use modding a V6 because you'll never equal a V8. Maybe yes, maybe no, but the fun is in trying.

Right now, there are people who don't know if I have a 6 or an 8 in my Bird. That means I'm gaining on achieving my goals. Just wish I'd win the raffle so I can get the handling package NOW!

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As long as your not blown Id stay away from the 80MM Lmaf you really dont need it my stock 70MM will do just dandy for me right now for sure and much more to come but when I go with the vortech Ill prolly switch too.

Yeah PCD just let me know when your gonna be at mikes and ill stop by as long as its ok with him to many people underestimate the v6 like alot of the v8 guys here say buh bye if your messin with me plus the uniqueness of modded v6 bird is crazy that why many people dont have imagination to make things themselves like if you cant find it at autozone it cant be done lol I think the v6 benefits more from a supercharger unless its a 5.0 a guy I know with a 4.6 supercharged was only runnin like 14.7 and he had more stuff done besides that low mileage motor and all where as a stock manual tbird sc will run that maybe even lower well Ill talk to you guys later Justin

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Yeah I'm saving the LMAF for the supercharger. Along with my 30# injectors. I just don't need them right now. And I don't want to pay for a chip to run them if I'm just going to need a reburn when I supercharge.
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Okay I guess this is an Iowa People Only thread now lol.

Dude 800 for that program? That's effin nuts. I could buy a used vortech for that price. Yikes.

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If I had the LMAF, I'd put it on. Right now I'm trying to decide what TB to look for. Mike and Al say mine is too small.

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Well it is pretty small, but on an egnine like yours you don't really need a bigger one unless you get some otehr stuff done first. It wouldn't hurt anything, but it wouldn't help anything either. But if you're looking for one it'll be off of an 88 or earlier 5.0 t-bird or a 93 and earlier mustang 5.0 mustang. And you'll need an adapter bracket like me and Justin have.
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But you could do as many reburns as you want for free.

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We can talk about the TB in Marshalltown next Saturday,

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but still...800 bucks!

Yeah we can talk about it Saturday. And you can check out my cool revised home made cold air intake. I think it looks sweet. And it runs much better now.

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You forget Thomas I have no adapter I made my own worked out really nice too

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Don't worry I havn't forgotten. I kick myself every time I look at my throttle body. Oh well. It's a shiny adapter plate so it distracts me from the cost hehe. I'll be sure to let anyone know who inquires about it there's a cheaper way.

My throttle body is actually polished and I think it flows that of a 65mm. Don't quote me on that though.

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Unsure what you mean by "sig" but I noticed you have an MSD 5. How's that do for ya?

Also noticed you have a BBK 56mm TB. I'd just like to point out to anyone who's considering it that you can buy a 60mm 5.0 TB for about 30 bucks and adapt it pretty cheaply.

Also, I noticed you have the PCV delete. Could you PM me details about how you did it? I'm still a little shady on how to do it precisely. I hope to have it done by Saturday.

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