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Smile 60 mm t.b.

i would like to install the 60 mm t.b. on my 3.8l i do not have an adapter but i know it has been done befor so any one who has done this mod any help would be apreciated
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What else have you done to your car so far? I think I may be the one your talking about I adapted my own I think I am the only person on here that did(may be wrong) everyone else I know that has the 60mm got Flex's adapter but I was 18 broke and full of ideas

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What else have you done to your car so far? I think I may be the one your talking about I adapted my own I think I am the only person on here that did(may be wrong) everyone else I know that has the 60mm got Flex's adapter but I was 18 broke and full of ideas
Actually rancherlee has a 60mm tb adapting the lx2sc way. I think it's cool how we all live in the midwest too hehe.

Yeah, like lx2sc said, if you don't have many engine mods the throttle body really wouldn't help you out much. Think about upgrading your intake manifolds and other things first.

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i have many internal and simple bolt ons just wanted to do something more on the induction side and get rid of thatsmall t.b. and get something bigger but i dont have the addapter but i know a few people have put it on and i was wondering if you could let me know how you did it so i can do the same
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i have many internal and simple bolt ons just wanted to do something more on the induction side and get rid of thatsmall t.b. and get something bigger but i dont have the addapter but i know a few people have put it on and i was wondering if you could let me know how you did it so i can do the same
First find a throttle body from an 86-88 (I believe) thunderbird, mustang, cougar 5.0L and all the sensors attached along with the wiring harness pigtail and enough wire to splice into your sensor wires on the car. Then you mark the 60mm tb where holes are on the v6 manifold and drill them out. lx2sc will have to tell you how to make the throttle linkage because I have no idea. Once I locate my Chilton's Manual I'll post which wires splice into which.

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First find a throttle body from an 86-88 (I believe) thunderbird, mustang, cougar 5.0L
the mustang uses a bigger throttle body than the cougars and t-birds, im having a brain fart and cant tell you what the sizes of each one is at the moment

EDIT: the tbird/cougar is 60mm, while the mustang is 60mm
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the tbird/cougar is 60mm, while the mustang is 60mm
so they're the same size? I believe my tb came from a thunderbird.

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also, I believe it's 86-88 thunderbirds/cougars, and 86-93 mustang 5.0L's Now that I think of it my tb came off of a 93 5.0 mustang. ordered it from Flex with the edges smoothed and all polished.
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Ok Guys im just gonna make another post as a how-to alot of people aare asking ill put pics on there too.

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so they're the same size? I believe my tb came from a thunderbird.
crap, i meant to type 50mm, the standard output 5.0's got a 50mm throttle body while the HO got a 60mm
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Okay so it needs to come from a thunderbird then? I swear the 5.0 stangs had 60mm tb's on non-ho's. You can't use an HO tb because they are different than the non-ho's.
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Okay so it needs to come from a thunderbird then? I swear the 5.0 stangs had 60mm tb's on non-ho's. You can't use an HO tb because they are different than the non-ho's.
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I am not familiar with the years, but let me add what I know so far. From what I recall, all V8 stangs back then were HO 5.0's. And of course there were no HO V6 stangs. So if you have a 5.0 tb, it's from an HO V8 stang.

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Okay so it needs to come from a thunderbird then? I swear the 5.0 stangs had 60mm tb's on non-ho's. You can't use an HO tb because they are different than the non-ho's.
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As Roy said, every 5.0 Stang is an HO, im not sure about 86, since 86 is an oddball 5.0, but 87-95 all are HO's, and use a 60mm throttle body, the thunderbirds/cougars/grand marquis ect got the standard output 5.0

only car other than the stang to get an HO is the LSC

as for not being able to use the HO tb, i dont see why not, the standard output guys do direct swaps with the HO throttle body, with no issues, so there isnt any external difference, the only difference is the venturi and the throttle plate
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all 89-93 5.0 THUNDERBIRDS were HO. 5.0 HO was, I believe, an option for the stang. It came with both. Either way, look for a non HO 5.0L ford and grab the throttle body off of it
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you got me in a loophole, the mn12's were HO

but why grab a 50mm non-HO throttle body when you want a 60mm?

and i know for a fact the HO was standard for the 5.0 stangs
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actually, if you get technical, you could say the HO was an option because you could buy a 4cyl or 6cyl stang, but every 5.0 was HO
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actually, if you get technical, you could say the HO was an option because you could buy a 4cyl or 6cyl stang, but every 5.0 was HO
I'll back you on this one TBird232ci. For certain all Mustang five litres from 87-93 except for possible the 93 cobra (that one might have been a 65 mm) were High Output and had the 60mm throttle body. The 86 was a High Output but I think the TB may have been smaller but I'm not 100% sure on that
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No Dont grab one off a non-H.O they came with the same 52mm throttle body as our car the 3.8 its just bigger on the back so it can bolt up to the 5.0 intakes lincolns have these which are a dime a dozen out here in the bone yard all 5.0 stangs I believe came with the 60mm tb but some were halfshafted already and some werent pretty wierd but you can also tell which way the tube that comes out of it if facing if the throttle linkage is on the right the tube is on the left with the outlet facing up

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I have never seen a 5.0 fuel injected stang that didnt have a 5.0 HO emblem thing on the intake plenum.
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I'll back you on this one TBird232ci. For certain all Mustang five litres from 87-93 except for possible the 93 cobra (that one might have been a 65 mm) were High Output and had the 60mm throttle body. The 86 was a High Output but I think the TB may have been smaller but I'm not 100% sure on that
it wouldnt be suprising about the 86, it is the only year with flat tops and E6 heads, so it could have the smaller throttle body, im not totally sure
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