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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-25-2005, 09:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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Headgaskets, $$$ 98 Mustang engine

So couple of years ago I dropped in a 98 mustang 3.8l when mine went boom. So it was all sunshine and lollypops until now. The motor has started consuming coolant (nooooo). So I need some headgaskets, the problem: around $75 for each head gasket for 98 mustang + upper lower intake and valve cover gaskets ($275 for the kit less headbolts), now the t-bird ones are less than $20 each and the whole kit with intake and valve cover gaskets is $77. WTF? Are passages different on these heads?

Note: The whole motor cost me $600 with 55k miles on it at that time. Is it worth it? Maybe I'll have to wait for PI motor swap in my 1996 and then use the old 4.6 in my 1994...
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Nevermind...I thought you were talking about a 4.6.

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if you are interested, i am parting out my engine. i had the HG replaced 5k miles ago. some items of interest:

completely rebuilt heads
ARP head studs (cheaper than the tbird ones)
painted intakes and valve covers
supersix cam

let me know if anything interests you. i will sell these parts cheap. i have pics of everything.

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if you are interested, i am parting out my engine. i had the HG replaced 5k miles ago. some items of interest:

completely rebuilt heads
ARP head studs (cheaper than the tbird ones)
painted intakes and valve covers
supersix cam

let me know if anything interests you. i will sell these parts cheap. i have pics of everything.

sorry, but that would probably cost me more than I want to put in at this time, I was hoping for a quick cheap fix for now
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the 96-98 heads are all the same, I dont know why they list them as different. Thats pretty effing expensive. Is that fel-pro? I can look up pricing at work for you if you like, I work at o'reillys. It doesnt necessarily have to be a blown headgasket to be leaking coolant. You could have a leaking low intake manifold gasket which would seep coolant into the intake port(s) and blow white smoke. Or you could have an external coolant leak like lower manny gasket that blew to the outside of the ehad. Have you looked around the motor for any indications of something being wrong? I'd also do a compression check and see what you come up with.
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Advance Auto: $138 for 96 3.8 Head set HS8857PT8
and 98 Mustang is the same HS8857PT8

Auto Zone $139 HS8857PT-8

Oreily's: cant get to site but betting ~130

Rockauto: $125+S/H HS8857PT-8

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Advance: $18.88 ES72160

AZ: $18.99 ES72160


Point being if someone chargeing $275 avoid doing any business with them and either be weary of that $75 one or you should have jumped on it.
Oh all of those are Fel Pro.

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Just for reference, through my employee discount I can get a SC HG kit for 81 dollars and the headbolts for 12 dollars. So the discount is substantial. I'm sure the 3.8 NA kit will be even cheaper.

I'm going to talk to the boss and see if I cant convince him to set up an account for TCCoA. Auto shops and Jiffy Lube have an account through them for discounts, even employees of those shops get discounts for personal use. So Im sure they'd be open to the idea of setting up an account for 5000+ members. Sell stuff cheap, make money, and it'll all be done through me so my sales average will go up

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I called autozone (their site wasn't functioning for me) and they told me $179, napa was $275, advance auto showed $177 Fel Pro HS9262PT bowez you must get some sort of discount... No external coolant leaks, I'll do the compression test and see what I come up with, it would be easy if it wasn't so freakin' cold outside...
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Just for reference, through my employee discount I can get a SC HG kit for 81 dollars and the headbolts for 12 dollars. So the discount is substantial. I'm sure the 3.8 NA kit will be even cheaper.

I'm going to talk to the boss and see if I cant convince him to set up an account for TCCoA. Auto shops and Jiffy Lube have an account through them for discounts, even employees of those shops get discounts for personal use. So Im sure they'd be open to the idea of setting up an account for 5000+ members. Sell stuff cheap, make money, and it'll all be done through me so my sales average will go up

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I love the Oreily's near me and be great if could get parts even cheaper.

KewlBird as for a discount, no just local price I guess, but if you want I can order them and have them sent to ya unless you want Thomas's.

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the results

I finally got a chance to do some testing on my bird and here's the results:

compression: 147-155 psi in all cylinders (passed)

cylinder leakage test (for blown headgasket look into radiotor for bubbles): passed for all 6 cylinders

coolant pressure test: failed - very fine leak at lower right corner of the radiator


during the testing I broke 2 spark plug wires, the metal insert wouldn't come off the spark plugs so the wires pulled out, even with pliers they were being difficult. I also through in new double platinum spark plugs with the new wires (genuine motorcraft parts, old wires were belden from napa). The radiator still has warranty on it, so once the weekend gets here I can hopefully exchange it for a new one.

As for the extra oil in the crankcase.....who knows? I'll have to keep my eyes on it..

Thanks everyone
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