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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 04-12-2005, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
 
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Air silencer

I was just going to take out my air silencer and wanted to make sure this was the air silencer...


black thing down the hole?
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Yea you can pull that whole black part out... the silencer is in the middle,
might wanna watch where you have that cone, its gonna suck in hot engine air

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alright.. one more question... do they make a CAI tube or pipe, that actually goes down in that hole so it only sucks in cold air..and can still mount my K&N filter on it?
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alright.. one more question... do they make a CAI tube or pipe, that actually goes down in that hole so it only sucks in cold air..and can still mount my K&N filter on it?
Yes, they do, you can find them on ebay all the time as Densechargers. It should fit your application as well since it is only a MAFS forward design. But seriously, just go to Home Depot and buy a little pvc pipe and a 90 degree turn. If you need more help, do a search, it is all over this site
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Even without an actuall CAI youll be impressed after you rip it out. Car sounds alot better when you punch it. ( and no more water getting in the intake)
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i took out my silencer and put a cone filter on and put a 4" plastic ribbed tube running from that hole in the engine bay down to sit inside the bumber....so as u drive air is thrown up the tube and the filter is RIGHT there...the cone is set up as the FIPK from K&N but i outsmarted them and bought a filter from autozone and made my own bracket works the same. would this plastice tube do me any harm?

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I am surprised no one picked up on ripass's picture...

If you are removing your air silencer, with a cone filter, you will notice NO DIFFERENCE.

The air silencer is meant to quite the air intake system if you are using the stock air box.

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aw crap, you spent the hundred dollars on the FIPK kit.

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I am surprised no one picked up on ripass's picture...

If you are removing your air silencer, with a cone filter, you will notice NO DIFFERENCE.

The air silencer is meant to quite the air intake system if you are using the stock air box.
True there is no power gain, but the engine sounds alot meaner when you hit the gas.
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True there is no power gain, but the engine sounds alot meaner when you hit the gas.
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IF you keep the airbox... the majority of the air that is gonna be drawn in with an open element like that is gonna come from the engine bay, not through that small hole in the fenderwell.

again, he will notice NO DIFFERENCE in sound or power if he leaves the filter right where it is and removes the silencer.

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There is a change in souund, mine was alot louder at WOT after i took it out
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its true, the open air filter gives a very loud growling sound when it sucks in air. But that doesnt mean it'll add any power if its just sucking in hot air noisily. Put it in the fender, or make an airbox if you want to get anything out of it.
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post #13 of 34 (permalink) Old 05-03-2005, 12:23 PM
 
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If you do take it out and put the filter in fender, it's really easy to fabricate something. I made mine out of a random intake tube. Took about an hour total.

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is your MAF sensor plugged into that random intake tube?
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no, his maf sensor is plugged into that MAF on the end of the intake tube.
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oh ok I see it now... I'm the noob around here so I'm going to be asking a lot of stupid questions... Thanks though!

Edit: What does converting to a cone filter and putting it down in the fender do?(well I see it is down there to keep from sucking in hot engine air, anything else?) I took the air silencer out but I still have the stock filter... I see most everyone has switched to a cone or something other than stock so I was wondering what it actually did (noob)
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It acts like a "ram air"/cold air intake. Thats bout it. If your like me and do alot of gravel road/ no road driving lol, dont bother with putting the cone below the fender, its just gonna get wet and dirty fast.

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lol... what does ram air/cold air intake do compared to stock intake? I'm like, noob noob...
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lol np, the idea behind ram air is when the air filter is located in a spot that is in the direct path of the incoming air, so as the speed of the vehicle increases more air is forced through the filter (not the best definition I know). Cold air intakes are located so that colder air from outside the engine bay is drawn in to the engine, ie. from under the fender, outside air is used instead of heated air from the engine bay. Because cooler air is denser, more can be drawn into the engine, givivng a small boost in HP
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I put up a cone filter in my bird, and there was another plug that was supposed to go into the intake...It was originally located into the stock air box...where have you guys relocated this because this wasnt connected when I did it and my gas economy went to the crapper?
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I put up a cone filter in my bird, and there was another plug that was supposed to go into the intake...It was originally located into the stock air box...where have you guys relocated this because this wasnt connected when I did it and my gas economy went to the crapper?
thats the PCV hose. You should find some way to put it back into the intake tube.

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My setup. It is ddropped pretty low, but I get very little rain here in SoCal.

fresh air intake drop
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naw its not the PCV hose thats farther up on the intake tubing...this is like a sensor that connects right into the air box near the MAF....whats this for cause Im pretty sure this is directly related to the crappy gas mileage.
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Was it down in the box, close to the bottom, before the MAF? From what it sounds like, it could be the Air Temperature sensor?

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i have two wires that go to my MAF sensor and only one plugs in... I don't know if that is what he is talking about because if he is I'd like to know what the other one is for...
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I put up a cone filter in my bird, and there was another plug that was supposed to go into the intake...It was originally located into the stock air box...where have you guys relocated this because this wasnt connected when I did it and my gas economy went to the crapper?
That is the Air Temperature Sensor. It should be white with an orange line in the middle (if I remember right). If you bought the K&N FIPK (like I did) it comes with a bracket to stick the sensor on. The sensor just ends up hanging there outside of the filter so it shouldn't make a difference where yours is. If you really want to you can tape it next to the MAF or near the filter.
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I can't get my silenser out. I never really cared to try because I have the FIPK, but I just went and look at my car and figured "why not just rip it out?" Well I cant get it out because all of the plastic in the wheel well and under the bumper and preventing it from moving. So I think I'm just going to muscle it out and break a few things in the process.
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In my setup I stuck the air temp sensor in a small hole leading inside the fender. The hole is actually the perfect size and shape, almost like it was made for it... In the pic it is right above the aluminum elbow.
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In my setup I stuck the air temp sensor in a small hole leading inside the fender. The hole is actually the perfect size and shape, almost like it was made for it... In the pic it is right above the aluminum elbow.
I thought that's what that was, good idea, I like that.
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would the affect gas mileage...it doesnt seem so but it threw mine way off....like down to around 18 when I was gettign like 21/22
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