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I have a riddle for you.

This riddle tells you what my car is doing: I am not a cracked block, I am not a cracked head, I am not water soaked spark plugs, I am not water in the oil, I am not combustion gas in the radiator, Yet I still drip water out of the exhaust. What am I? *sigh* >.<
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Hmm I guess I should put it this way: The water in the radiator drains as quickly as it is coming out of the exhaust.
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yeah dude, its supposed to do that. It means your cats are working
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Hmm I guess I should put it this way: The water in the radiator drains as quickly as it is coming out of the exhaust.


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yeah dude, its supposed to do that. It means your cats are working
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Uh, I hardly think water dripping out the exhaust is an indication that the cats are properly functioning.

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its amazing, i knew someone was going to say that. when your car runs, it emits water from the combustion process well, if your cats were plugged, then no water would come out the exhaust, but then the car wouldnt run, I suppose

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This riddle tells you what my car is doing: I am not a cracked block, I am not a cracked head, I am not water soaked spark plugs, I am not water in the oil, I am not combustion gas in the radiator, Yet I still drip water out of the exhaust. What am I? *sigh* >.<
you/it are/is a leaking or poorly installed intake manifold gasket?

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is your oil milky?

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The oil is fine. The only answer I could come up with is that coolant sat in the exhaust (the car is at an angle on ramps), and when I start it, after the head was changed, it is now burning off.

Wouldn't an intake manifold leak cause it to burn in the cylinders? All of my spark plugs are dry. =/ I'll know for sure tomorrow whats going on when I crank the engine with no spark plugs in it.

Thanks for the replies! =)
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yeah dude, its supposed to do that. It means your cats are working

He is right that the cats can cause this ... gaseous emitions are changed to carbon dioxide and water. which is what we want ... or most the tree huggers anyways.

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On an entirely different level. What engines can I throw in my car? Can I take a 1996 v6 and stick it in there no problem? What about a 1990 supercharged v6? Will these require extensive modifications? Thanks.
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Physically those engines will fit in just fine. With the 96, you may run into problems since the 96 is set up for DIS while you have a distributor. You may be able to use your front cover and be fine, but I'm not sure. Also, the heads, intake, and exhaust manifolds all changed in 96 as well. You could probably use your electronics on the 96 engine, but again I'm not sure since I don't know the exact differences, if any, in sensor placement and whatnot. Also I believe that the heater hoses differed between 96+ engines and earlier ones. If everything fits right into place, you'll benefit from an additional 5 hp. But keep in mind that if you use the 96+ manifolds, you'll have to use the 96+ exhaust, and that might be more trouble that you are looking for. You could, however, use your manifolds on the 96 heads. As for the SC motor, you'd have to get all the necessary wiring for the engine. This may or may not require you to change out wiring behind the dash or elsewhere in the car.

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Hello

Sounds like a blown Head gasket at the exhaust port. The water is exiting threw your exhaust pipes only.

This is hard to diagnose & Hard to believe. I have seen it before.

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Sounds like a blown Head gasket at the exhaust port. The water is exiting threw your exhaust pipes only.

This is hard to diagnose & Hard to believe. I have seen it before.

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The head gasket was just replaced =)
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Running really really rich?

Hmmm. I never thought of that. The car IS running rough at idle. The oxygen sensors were NEVER replaced by the previous owner. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the input!
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The head gasket was just replaced =)
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Hmmm. I never thought of that. The car IS running rough at idle. The oxygen sensors were NEVER replaced by the previous owner. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the input!
While the car is running do you smell gas from the exhaust?

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Ok guys that was a mishap..... The gaskets are fine. I am not losing coolant. But the timing is off and I'm a little confused as to where 10 degrees BTDC is. I marked where I THINK it is. But I need you guys to confirm. By the clicking of the timing light, it sounds like I need a new distributor because the spark plug doesn't fire alot of the time. Then again I could still have the wrong timing. Here is the pic:

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that is 10 btdc. it could also be a plug or wire. what rpm are you setting the timing at?
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get a load of this. I turned the distributor while the car was running and got it so the car seemed to be running very well. I left it like that for a few minutes to check the temperature guage and make sure everything was good. I opened the oil cap and the car stalled, I tried it again and the same thing happened. What gives? I have the weirdest problems.
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maybe a strange obd1 thing?
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"Is it normal for our cars to stall if you take the oil cap off while it is running? Because that is what my car does. If you pull the PCV valve out or the oil cap off while the car is idling it will stall. If you pull the oil dip stick out it will idle rough. :huh: "

"Yes, it is normal. A simple way to view the need for maintaining "routine" vacuum pressure in an engine is that the vacuum serves as a control "medium". Consider the number of vacuum hoses leading to engine controls that rely upon this "negative" force. The oil dipstick, like any dislodged vacuum hose sized leak, is not completely disruptive due to its relative size.

Now, for the environmental side: The control of the engine's internal atmosphere has a significant influence on non-tail pipe emissions. I believe it was about 1968 when the earliest form of pollution control started with the outlawing of vented oil caps. In their place, the PCV was invented to control this pressure and route the emissions into the carburator intake."




My car is normal! Huzzah!

But I do need to replace the timing chain. I have the distributor at about 20 degrees BTDC, So it has either stretched or jumped a notch.

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Did you pull the SPOUT connector before setting the timing?

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Did you pull the SPOUT connector before setting the timing?
Why of course.
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"Yes, it is normal. A simple way to view the need for maintaining "routine" vacuum pressure in an engine is that the vacuum serves as a control "medium". Consider the number of vacuum hoses leading to engine controls that rely upon this "negative" force. The oil dipstick, like any dislodged vacuum hose sized leak, is not completely disruptive due to its relative size.

Now, for the environmental side: The control of the engine's internal atmosphere has a significant influence on non-tail pipe emissions. I believe it was about 1968 when the earliest form of pollution control started with the outlawing of vented oil caps. In their place, the PCV was invented to control this pressure and route the emissions into the carburator intake."
what i've never heard of such a thing i can take my cap off when ever i want i've never had a car stall from taking the oil cap off

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