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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-19-2002, 09:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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will this part work?

Gents...I called jcwhitney today about a new ignition...and they wanted to know if I had a point type ignition and my chilton's and hane's doesnt say any difference.


This is the part Im looking to buy

Chromed Blaster "2" 45,000-volt Ignition Coil
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48ZX9360T
$ 59.95


Will this work on my 95 3.8?
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-19-2002, 12:49 PM
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I'm not an ignition expert but I'd say it's a safe bet you don't have a point type ignition... unless someone has done an engine swap on your car. Truthfully I can't remember if my '86 had points or not but I'm 80% sure it wasn't. Afaik all 'Birds came with electronic ignition after '83???

I'd say that coil would work but you don't need the ballast resistor. Maybe you should touch base with MSD instead of Whitney?
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you dont have a points type ignition. go with the msd blaster tfi coil its like 55 it is a direct swap harness just plugs in. that is if you have a distributor if you dont you have coil packs and you cant upgrade those.

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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 02-11-2003, 04:23 AM
 
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don't buy qite yet.

Why do people buy these huge coils??? 45,000 volts is not going make you go faster or make a hotter spark, electricity is only going to take as much power to jump the gap on the plug. Adding more voltage is not going to make the plug burn hotter, it's going to make your capacitor work harder to bleed off the ecxess voltage. The only reason you would need something like this is if your engine is turning like 15,000 rpm. So your coil does not fade due to rpm. A larger coil is not going to help you pal, don't waste your money.
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Moneymaker,
An ignition system bleeds off power through a number of different parts. Remember that the spark energy has to go from the coil, through the distributor cap, through the wires, then the plug in order to bridge the gap. That is a lot of resistance bud and that is why aftermarket coild wires etc are superior to stock garbage, because they deliver more energy to the plug. A recent issue of MM&FF posted a .15 s gain by the addition of MSD coil.
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Robin,
I believe you have DIS on your car and you would need to buy aftermarket coil packs instead to improve on what you have.
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post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old 05-02-2003, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
 
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So that would be a big headache then...to go to aftermarket coil packs, computer and all that?
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last time i checked, you just bolt in the new coilpacks. A simple job.

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Part number?


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"resistance" what kind of answer is that? was your factory coil slowing you down? you must be confused unless you have some crazy 20,000 rpm mn12 (impossible) and .15 from just a coil? no way. unless that fast *** ford is turning major rpm you don't need it, total waste of money. Do you know what happens to a factory coil @ high rpm (im not talking 6-7000)? It can't generate higher voltage due to high speed, it can't recharge fast enough to get it's set voltage before it has to fire again. why do you think bikes have capacitor discharge ignition? no fade. why? perfect start and stop and a good coil but they also are designed to turn like 12,000 rpm. I think you are perfectly fine with a factory coil. unless you have the first 20,000 rpm mn12.

Also: don't believe everything mm&ff tells you.
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ok... in the new jegs...


there is the p/n 121-8200 the chrome blaster 2 kit (blaster series high performance coils)


They also have the duraspark one Ford TFI coil 121-8225 and i dont have my chiltons and hanes at the house (friends house)


Which one of these works or do niether of em?



BTW I just got the 95 3.8 LX n/a (plain ol betsy)
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Actually Rob, the part number you want is TFI-8227. It should have a plug in on one side and a post on the other.
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Am I confused or does he NOT have TFI? I thought the distributor went away on 3.8s after '93 or there-abouts...

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3.8L N/A's had the distributor from 89-95, then went to distributorless in 96-97
3.8L N/A's Calif. had distributorless ignition from 94-95
3.8L SC's had distributorless ignition from 89-95

So unless his is a California edition N/A, he should have TFI not distributorless.

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Thanks, I never can remember which is which. I've heard that the stock TFI coil's output starts to drop off significantly after about 4500 RPM, any truth to that?

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That's what all the mag's print. The MSD is supposed to be good to 6 grand.

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What do you have bro? If you have a TFI coil, it will be by the air box.
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Yes, an easy way to decide what you have (TFI or DIS) is by looking at the coil/coil pack. DIS uses a coil pack, all of the spark plug wires run from it to the spark plugs. TFI uses a coil, with a wire running from it to the distributor cap.

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I do have a distributor...i know that much. I have to break into a shop right now to eyeball the thing. Ill check next time im over there.
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Then you have a distributor style ignition, a TFI ignition NOT DIS (distributorless). If you do want an aftermarket coil go with the MSD Ford TFI coil (part #: 121-8227 in Jegs).

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thanks for postin guys.


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