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My thunderbird only has 70k on it. My friend works at ford and he gets discounts on parts. What am i better off doing to my tranny? I want him to get me a marauder converter and go with a trans go shift kit.. will i be expecting a gain and no headaches later?? If not.. what converter should i look at. I live in San Diego ca.. and no one knows or has heard of the j mod.. Its sad
Sorry my suggestions are considerably different. Find your transmission, dismantle yours and adapt the proper parts in. Modify the valvebody per the articles on this site. If you just want an OEM converter you will be dissapointed unless he gives you a really good deal. I can build you a good unit reasonably, you will also need a markVIII flexplate. Put a good cooler on it too.
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First Mod. Trans Overhaul

Im getting a deal, getting my tranny droped along with a shift kit and new torque converter replaced with a higher stall speed.. for 800 $ . I need to supply the tq converter though.. am i getting a deal? If soo Where should i start looking for the tq converter and will i be satisfied? I really want to make my bird something. any info or advice from mn12 owners would really help!!
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$800 plus a core is a little steep depending on what the trans and converter is. Theres factory converters with higher stall speeds than ours.

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Exactly what type/brand of "shift kit" are you getting? If it's not the j-mod, then I think you may be in for a surprise later on down the road.

And yea, that's pretty expensive. You could pick up a used 01+ trans. for $3-400, then buy a Marauder or Mark VIII converter and have that all installed for a total of $800.

What I read from this is that you are pulling out your stock 96 transmission with probably 140K miles on it by now, installing a higher stall TC, installing a "shift kit", and then sticking it back into your car, for $800? Does that $800 include a new filter, and refill of 13 or so quarts of Mercon V fluid? Don't let them refill it with Mercon III, as the manual probably states. Will save you headache down the road maybe.

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I feel differently about the whole thing. I have bought many 4r70w transmissions for people. Usually the plan is take the transmission apart, swap in the output shaft and fix the TCC solenoid if needed. Then alter the shift controls and install a couple improved parts such as a spiral retainer on the direct drum and a high carbon overdrive band. When I buy transmissions I get as low mileage as I can. Avoid mustang transmissions over about 25,000 miles. It is rare to get a really good transmission for $400. The better ones are usually in the neighborhood of $650-$800 for the core. The mustang and police units will come with a 11&1/4 converter. I still refuse to use stock converters because of the clutch material, but for all intensive purposes it can work. IMO most rebuild shops are ging to charge you $1500 to give it a rebuild that will last a year. For the same money you can put a much better unit in it.

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well my tranny only has 70k on it as does the whole car. But i like the mark vlll or maruader converter idea.. and shift kit for 800. I wouldnt know where to go to get the jmod done.. Help! And what type of fluid should i refill the tranny with?

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an 01 plus trans?? for 3 to 400 dollars??? please tell me where. My tranny still only has 70k

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I got my 30k mile 2000 GT trans (with converter) from a listing there for $350 including the core charge. Typically they go around $500 but if your patient you can snag a deal.

Use mercon V

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I thought it was cheap, parts alone for mine is in the $1900 range.

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so how was the improvment? Did You really enjoy it or is there better things i can do for the money, I really want my bird to have some BALLS!

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yes a tune thats exactly what i need.. When you say tune you mean a chip? how much does that run? and what do they do?

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anyone with some advice?

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I got my 30k mile 2000 GT trans (with converter) from a listing there for $350 including the core charge. Typically they go around $500 but if your patient you can snag a deal.

Use mercon V
How many years ago. Right now I'm finding 03-05 stuff with low mileage at the best prices, when the older stuff is that low mileage it is higher now.
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I searched car-part.com nationwide and found 1 01 mustang unit under 20,000 miles and less than $700 All the rest are over tat one way or the other. That one is in kennedale tx. It really depends on your local area because if you pay $150 to ship a unit that adds into the cost.
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I searched car-part.com nationwide and found 1 01 mustang unit under 20,000 miles and less than $700 All the rest are over tat one way or the other. That one is in kennedale tx. It really depends on your local area because if you pay $150 to ship a unit that adds into the cost.
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My thunderbird only has 70k on it. My friend works at ford and he gets discounts on parts. What am i better off doing to my tranny? I want him to get me a marauder converter and go with a trans go shift kit.. will i be expecting a gain and no headaches later?? If not.. what converter should i look at. I live in San Diego ca.. and no one knows or has heard of the j mod.. Its sad

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NO NO NO NO...

NO Trans NO I mean Go.

J-mod its cheaper and it won't kill your tranny.

J-mod: http://www.tccoa.com/articles/tranny...ybusiness.html

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what should i do?? I dont have the capability of droping the tranny and doing it myself. Do i print out the step by step in the articles?? Bring it to the dealer? No one knows what a jmod is around here atleast the transmissions guys i talked too

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Could give them the print out is rather idiot proof.

You don't drop the tranny just the valve body, which is behind the pan.

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true that. Man i wish there were more mn12 lovers here in southern california. I love my thunderbird. I really want to find a 1990 35th aniversary 5speed.. those are sexy! But guess what!?! No ONE HAS ONE FOR SALE ON THE WEST COAST.. I HAVENT EVEN SEEN ONE! yOU KNOW I ONLY HAVE SEEN ONE SUPERCOUPE AND THAT WAS IT ANEHEIM WHEN I WENT TO DISNEYLAND. REDICULOUS

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