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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-23-2011, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
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TC not seated!

So my tc went out on my 95 lx so i got a tranny with tc. We didnt check to make sure the tc was still seated when bolting everything together and when it is turn over by hand there is a clanking from the bell housing near the input shaft.
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Someone can correct me but that could be the Pump.

Time to pull the tranny back out.

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I also forgot that it the tranny is tightened all the way that it binds and wont turn by hand.
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You just have to pull it out and reseat it, I've gone through this a few times on mine and others cars.

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Cool i mean that sucks big time but i was expecting to hear i f$%^ it up. Oh and does anyone have a suggestion as to what kind of adhesive i should use to put the breather on the back topside of the tranny on. My new tranny didnt have one on it so i pulled the old one off and was going to use JB Kwik.
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The vent is pressed in, just leave it be don't seal it up.
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So my tc went out on my 95 lx so i got a tranny with tc. We didnt check to make sure the tc was still seated when bolting everything together and when it is turn over by hand there is a clanking from the bell housing near the input shaft.
You WILL get a clank until you Bolt TC to Flex Plate as TC Studs rattle in Flex Plate holes.


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I also forgot that it the tranny is tightened all the way that it binds and wont turn by hand.
Is it in Park ? - Are TC Studs in Flex Plate Holes ? - Are you turning Crank the right direction ? - Or is really in a bind ? - Don't Bolt it up in a bind, that could very well bend Flex Plate or God knows what else ~!

Make sure TC is seated to Pump - I never could achieve the dimensions called for in Manual to verify that but this method worked for me:

I would suggest to just reach behind TC & slide something between Pump Fasteners & back of TC - I had 1/8 inch gap there - The Gear lands on TC are 9/16 deep - So if you only have 1/8 inch gap left at back of TC to Pump Fatseners you know darn well that the TC is not 9/16 shy of being all the way back into Tranny so Gear Lands MUST be seated.

Mate Tranny to Engine with maybe one or 2 easier Bolts ... ensuring TC can still be slid BACK fm Flex Plate about 1/4 inch & TC Studs are thru Flex Plate Holes.

Torque remaining Tranny Fasteners.

Bolt TC to Flex Plate.

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I wasnt going to seal it i was going to jb weld the tube in.

The tc isnt completly tightend just snug. The tranny was the same way.
Im done withit for a few days till i get one off from work but when i get back to it im going to get an extra person to make three i figure that ought to make it go real quick.
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Remove transmission, remove tc, lubricate tc hub with transmission assembly lube or ATF inside the spines and on the snout, push the tc onto the input shaft, spin the tc clockwise while firmly pushing inward, spin it again (same direction) while applying pressure, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, when in doubt...repeat. You should hear 2-4 decent thuds, or clunks, I only heard 2, but I felt 3 or 4. My tc was fully seated. Yours definately isn't. Also dumb question but the spacer/plate is installed between the block and trans correct? If not I'm unsure if it would cause issues. Good luck, I've had no issues with the 4r70w's cooperating, or 4L60's/700R4's but for some reason I always screw up installing tc's in 4T60's it drives me nuts. When in doubt step away, cool off, refocus, shake/jiggle the tc slightly while spinning/turning/pushing it in.

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Remove transmission, remove tc, lubricate tc hub with transmission assembly lube or ATF inside the spines and on the snout, push the tc onto the input shaft, spin the tc clockwise while firmly pushing inward, spin it again (same direction) while applying pressure, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, when in doubt...repeat. You should hear 2-4 decent thuds, or clunks, I only heard 2, but I felt 3 or 4. My tc was fully seated. Yours definately isn't. Also dumb question but the spacer/plate is installed between the block and trans correct? If not I'm unsure if it would cause issues. Good luck, I've had no issues with the 4r70w's cooperating, or 4L60's/700R4's but for some reason I always screw up installing tc's in 4T60's it drives me nuts. When in doubt step away, cool off, refocus, shake/jiggle the tc slightly while spinning/turning/pushing it in.
I know you are trying to help but IMO all that jiggle THUMP stuff does NOT help - As well as the Manual dimension fm Fwd face of TC to Tranny Flange does NOT help - The damned TC lands to Pump are 9/16 deep - So if you only have 1/8 fm back of TC to Pump Fasteners you ARE Seated - That's a dimension you can COUNT ON.

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I reseated the TC in my car today. I have found that it will turn over by hand, but the problem isn't that it isn't seated (I don't think) but the TC bolts are rubbing against the spacer plate between the Engine block and the bellhousing. When they hit an open area they hit the lip and the engine won't turn. Is it possible to install the spacer plate incorrectly so it is too close to the TC?


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not really. Not unless it's sticking out a lot at any point. The bolts and dowels should line it up. Maybe its broken?

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the TC bolts are rubbing against the spacer plate between the Engine block and the bellhousing.
IMO..Your TC is either slightly ballooned or not fully seated..

Here's a pic of an extremely ballooned Torque Converter!!
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You can actually see the indentations of the Flex Plate Bolts on the converter it was ballooned so bad..







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