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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-24-2013, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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Rebuild time is near

My transmission isn't going to last a whole lot longer. I plan on buying one and rebuilding it. My friend has a 4r70w that I have not yet bought but plan to. I want to rebuild this to handle a bit more power and I have NO experience with autos. So, I've compiled a list of parts that I think will be needed that I've found through research and would like some input on what I've missed. (Because I'm sure I've missed some)

This is the rebuild kit I was looking at.

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http://www.transmissioncenter.net/aode.htm


AODE / 4R70W Combo Kits

#K6. Fits Ford 4R70W transmissions, 1993 - 2002. You get the #5-4R70W Alto Red Eagle master rebuild kit for 4R70W transmissions. It comes with all Red Eagle clutches and Kolene steels, high performance direct RedEagle PowerPack, the #8 AODE / 4R70W Fairbanks high performance TransAction kit. This TransAction kit includes a newly designed OD servo piston and a no leak performance design 2-3 accumulator piston. Includes steel boost valve and sleeve to replace worn OEM valve. This is the same kit we use in the Interceptor transmissions. Both for $417.00

Along with that I "think" these parts will be needed.
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4R70W Carbon Fiber Overdrive Band. Cost $22.50


4R70W New Borg Warner Low / Reverse Band. Cost $29.70


4R70W pressure control solenoid. Fits 1992 - 1997 or 1998 up transmissions


Dominator" heavy duty torque converter for AODE / 4R70E transmissions. Good up to 400 horse power. 1800 stall speed $164.25. Can be ordered with a 2500 or 2800 stall speed for $255.00. This is a 11 3/4 inch converter with a 10 1/2 inch bolt pattern. The #13 and #13XX converters will not interchange because the flexplates are different.


Extreme Duty mechanical diode conversion kit for 1992 - 1998 AODE and 4R70W transmissions. Cost $137.70


Extreme Duty hard intermediate shaft for AODE / 4R70W transmissions. Cost $134.00


That's all I can think of and I know there is more. I "want" to push around 550 HP through it but realistically I'll likely only ever get to around 400. So, thanks in advanced, because I'm a SUPER N00B when it comes to automatics.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-24-2013, 08:18 PM
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IMO a lot of that stuff on TransmissionCenter.net is overpriced..

Do yourself a favor, and get in touch with SilverFox..

He can put a killer kit together for you..Just tell him you want a 4R70W-700 rebuild kit..Which should be good for up to 500 Hp..Possibly more..

Whatever parts not included in his kit can be purchased at WITT seperately..

Some of the more High Performance transmission parts you can't find at WITT..You might have to pick up at TransmissionCenter.net

That should help you save some $$$$$..





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Well I'm still not sure I'm to the level of being able to rebuild it myself. From what I'm seeing in cost to buy the parts and have a shop rebuild it, I'd be better off just doing this.

http://www.monstertrans.com/store/pr...ssion-2WD.html
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I would have thought that friends donor 4R70W would already have Mech Diode___? - If not you may want to shop for newer Case as it would be nice to have at least a 98 Main Valve Body - In a nutshell if you do it yourself it'll cost you about $2K to upgade a 96/97 w/ new TC & new Cooler & various upgrades - About $1K if you buy a good used 99/2000 4R70W & do it yourself.

Lot's of neat parts @ www.Sonnax.Com you can order fm our Vendors.

Here's a good thread on my 96 rebuild, I had never worked on an Automatic either:

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=51637

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I would have thought that friends donor 4R70W would already have Mech Diode___? - If not you may want to shop for newer Case as it would be nice to have at least a 98 Main Valve Body - In a nutshell if you do it yourself it'll cost you about $2K to upgade a 96/97 w/ new TC & new Cooler & various upgrades - About $1K if you buy a good used 99/2000 4R70W & do it yourself.

Lot's of neat parts @ www.Sonnax.Com you can order fm our Vendors.

Here's a good thread on my 96 rebuild, I had never worked on an Automatic either:

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=51637
Are the newer ones a direct swap over or do you have to change a lot of parts? That's what I was trying to steer clear of. And no, the donor is another 97.
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Are the newer ones a direct swap over or do you have to change a lot of parts? That's what I was trying to steer clear of. And no, the donor is another 97.
Relatively minor electrical mods on 99/2000 & a jillion Threads on that - IMO you are buying all new Electrics anyway so no biggy right____? - I can say from my own first hand experience that you'll have $2K in premium Parts & new 11 inch TC & new Cooler & Main VB upgrades (fm Sonnax) & expendables (Fluid, etc...) to make a proper Tranny out of a 96/97 (almost identical years) - & Again that was me doing ALL labor myself - SO>>>> you can make a a darn good case that a 97 or older aint worth Overhauling - DD says about half the 97's survivors he sees have Mech Diode but not the best version - 95 or older defintely not worth overhauling.

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Relatively minor electrical mods on 99/2000 & a jillion Threads on that - IMO you are buying all new Electrics anyway so no biggy right____? - I can say from my own first hand experience that you'll have $2K in premium Parts & new 11 inch TC & new Cooler & Main VB upgrades (fm Sonnax) & expendables (Fluid, etc...) to make a proper Tranny out of a 96/97 (almost identical years) - & Again that was me doing ALL labor myself - SO>>>> you can make a a darn good case that a 97 or older aint worth Overhauling - DD says about half the 97's survivors he sees have Mech Diode but not the best version - 95 or older defintely not worth overhauling.
Well I just got through talking to my local tranny shop. (I know the gut, and all the police departments use him) and he said a overhaul with beefier parts and mech diode upgrade would run me $1,500. And it'll take 3 days. It's sounding super appealing because I have my spare engine apart wanting to spend my time on that.
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Yes that sounds fair & Lord knoiws there's a ton of 4r70w's in Cop Cars... & with a few tweaks you'll be at the $2K.

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Yes that sounds fair & Lord knoiws there's a ton of 4r70w's in Cop Cars... & with a few tweaks you'll be at the $2K.
Pretty much what he said. Said I can keep going if I want to spend the money. He basically said just a few more parts and I'd be at the 2 grand mark. But he said a $2,000 trans from him could handle 600 HP and he garuntees his work up to 2 years.
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RobertP I would love to bring my car to you for all kinds of things. However you're like 5 to 6 hours away. I know I will likely have you do my swap. Also do you still have those limited slip rear ends that will fit our cars? And how much?
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A.Baker I wonder if you got your transmission fix. Let us know the status. I will like to know because I'm planning my self to overhaul my 94.
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Don't bother overhauling a 94 pick up a late model transmission and have it changed over. FWIW I am a sonnax dealer, ironically most converter parts come from them.
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