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tranny mount and TC questions

Due to an accident, I'm having to swap all the go-fast parts from the cougar in my sig to a nice t-bird I found.

1. The solid tranny mount needs to be replaced. I see SCP has one for $40 and Rockauto has a couple of solid ones for less than $20. Is the SCP one worth twice the money?

2. The car is my weekend hot rod since I use a Focus as my commuter car. So, the Mark VIII TC doesn't have many miles on it since the explorer swap, but while I have it all out;
Would you swap it out and with what? Also, would the different one need a change to the tune I have?

Thank you for you advice,

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Due to an accident, I'm having to swap all the go-fast parts from the cougar in my sig to a nice t-bird I found.

1. The solid tranny mount needs to be replaced. I see SCP has one for $40 and Rockauto has a couple of solid ones for less than $20. Is the SCP one worth twice the money?

2. The car is my weekend hot rod since I use a Focus as my commuter car. So, the Mark VIII TC doesn't have many miles on it since the explorer swap, but while I have it all out;
Would you swap it out and with what? Also, would the different one need a change to the tune I have?

Thank you for you advice,
Sorry to hear about your Cougar..

Just buy the Transmission Mount from RockAuto..The SCP piece is the same thing except more expensive..

A converter with a billet front plate would be a good expensive upgrade..

I'll let the others comment on what torque converter to use..






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Thanks, nobody was hurt. My oldest son let it get out from under him and he ended up sideways in a ditch. The entire driver's side is pushed in a few inches from the tires up to the roof line the entire length of the car.

It still starts and moves, but the tires on the bad side both point inward. The only piece of glass that broke was the Windshield as it buckled and broke right in front of the driver.

I found a 94 t-bird to get the donated parts from the cougar.

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3.73 TL, 93 Mark VIII DS. Tokico Blues all around.
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If you are in the market for a good quality billet cover torque converter with a great warranty call Chris at Circle D in Texas. He makes a great product, higher stall will be recommended for a retune, in which case I'd recommend Don LaSota from LaSota Racing. Neither of these are cheap but they completely change the attitude of the car. As far as mounts go there's nothing wrong with the units from RockAuto they are identical to the ones sold at SCP, Bill at SCP charges more because he is essentially a FN10/MN12 Specialty shop. There is also a poly upgrade unit from energy suspension for the 4r70w that many have adapted to work with the MN12/FN10 cross members easily, however I have no experience with that I use a solid rubber unit from rockauto on my 13 second DOHC swap bird without issues.

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Thanks for the tips. If the TC requires a re-tune, then I'm gonna stick with what I have.

I have the original xcal1 and don't wanna mess with mailing it in and stuff. To be honest, I wouldn't be rebuilding a t-bird if ALL the dang parts in the Cougar weren't new and the way the car was damaged was just weird the way it preserved all the drive train.

It's not that I don't like the MN12, but parts are just getting harder and harder to find. I was gonna move on to a mustang or something else, but I just had the diff rebuilt with 3.73s by one of the members here and that would go to waste or I'd lose my shirt on the resale.

02 AL PI 4.6L, 02 GT MAF and air box, SCT tune by lonnie.
2.25" true duals, no cats, Borla XS mufflers.
96 trans with 300HP + gear change J-mod, Mark VIII TC, & Hayden 30K GVW cooler.
Solid Rubber engine and tranny mounts. Polly front-end, tranny crossmember, and IRS bushings.
3.73 TL, 93 Mark VIII DS. Tokico Blues all around.
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97 console. Cooper 225/60/16s.
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If you are in the market for a good quality billet cover torque converter with a great warranty call Chris at Circle D in Texas. He makes a great product, higher stall will be recommended for a retune, in which case I'd recommend Don LaSota from LaSota Racing. Neither of these are cheap but they completely change the attitude of the car. As far as mounts go there's nothing wrong with the units from RockAuto they are identical to the ones sold at SCP, Bill at SCP charges more because he is essentially a FN10/MN12 Specialty shop. There is also a poly upgrade unit from energy suspension for the 4r70w that many have adapted to work with the MN12/FN10 cross members easily, however I have no experience with that I use a solid rubber unit from rockauto on my 13 second DOHC swap bird without issues.
Just for giggles, how much would this TC and re-tune cost?
Is the xcal1 still even supported?

02 AL PI 4.6L, 02 GT MAF and air box, SCT tune by lonnie.
2.25" true duals, no cats, Borla XS mufflers.
96 trans with 300HP + gear change J-mod, Mark VIII TC, & Hayden 30K GVW cooler.
Solid Rubber engine and tranny mounts. Polly front-end, tranny crossmember, and IRS bushings.
3.73 TL, 93 Mark VIII DS. Tokico Blues all around.
PBR dual piston calipers in front, Rear Disc Brake Swap.
97 console. Cooper 225/60/16s.
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Check the websites but I'm guessing $900 for TC and $400-500 for tune, you will have to buy an xcal 2 or 3. I might be high on the prices. I think your severally limiting yourself if you cheap out on the tune and TC. I'm still kicking myself for installing the mark 8 converter the first time.

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Ok, you've got my attention.

Chris, you said, " completely change the attitude of the car." can you guys try to elaborate/describe it?

02 AL PI 4.6L, 02 GT MAF and air box, SCT tune by lonnie.
2.25" true duals, no cats, Borla XS mufflers.
96 trans with 300HP + gear change J-mod, Mark VIII TC, & Hayden 30K GVW cooler.
Solid Rubber engine and tranny mounts. Polly front-end, tranny crossmember, and IRS bushings.
3.73 TL, 93 Mark VIII DS. Tokico Blues all around.
PBR dual piston calipers in front, Rear Disc Brake Swap.
97 console. Cooper 225/60/16s.
14.874 @ 93.56 with 3.27 before 3.73 upgrade

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