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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-19-2004, 09:38 AM Thread Starter
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Got my 5.4L 4r70w, some ?'s

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I got my 4R70W from Greenleaf in my garage. I was looking it over and it appears pretty clean. It is from a 99 F150, with 5.4L motor. I am going to be swappin on a 99-up car valve body, and putting on a 1-3 ohm TCC solenoid (93 Mark VIII). Anyway, the rubber tailshaft seal looks like it has a few tears in it. Is it necessary to replace that?

Also, I flipped it over to pull off the valve body, and it poured out a bunch of fluid, I am assuming that is normal, just want to make sure everything is ok. The fluid looked like it was in good condition. The trans was listed as only having 1000 miles.

My final question is regarding a forced lube tailshaft mod. Is there a special tool required to pull the bushing out of the tail, then push it back in? I have a friend that may be able to get me some Ford tools, so was wondering what I would need.

Thanks for the good updates from everyone recently. Hopefully I will have one soon myself. I am also getting ready to throw a 3200 rpm Street Edge converter in with this.

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Hey Craig, Craig here...

I am about to do a simalar swap, only 98 4R70W with JMOD and other goodies into my 94 Mark VIII. I just ordered my 94 TCC solenoid.

It might also be a good idea to check on replacing the front pump seal since it is out. You never know what that tranny went through even with 1k miles. This isnt necessary, just a precaution to save you from removing the tranny to replace a front seal way down the road.

You will also need the correct MLPS for your year car(neutral safety switch). They can be found at NAPA for $27.00

The force-lube mod is an excellent idea, especially if you are swapping to a steeper gear than your stock 93 Mark came with.

Sounds like you are well on your way to a killer set up. I think(correct me folks on his name)
silver95bird just did the same swap into his car. he had a nice write up....I'll go see if i can find it.

Good luck Craig
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I believe the truck talishaft is longer you may want to measure to be sure.
The bushing will require a bushing driver to remove it. Use caution when tapping the hole. Don't over tap it. That is a tapered tap. If you tap too deep you will have problems preventing leaks and might have to remove some of end of the fitting to prevent it from rubbing the yoke.
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I believe the truck talishaft is longer you may want to measure to be sure.
The bushing will require a bushing driver to remove it. Use caution when tapping the hole. Don't over tap it. That is a tapered tap. If you tap too deep you will have problems preventing leaks and might have to remove some of end of the fitting to prevent it from rubbing the yoke.
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Nope,the truck 4R70W's are identical to the car units with the exception of the 4x4 trucks,and the differences are painfully obvious.
The only 4R70W transmissions that have the longer extension housing are in the Town Car and Police CV.
Bushing driver for removal...Blah....
A sawzall for removing the bushing..cut it along 2 of the OE slots in the housing after removing the seal,and it'll literally fall out.You will need a bushing driver of sorts to install the new one...and be forewarned...they are a PITA to get in the ext housing bore completely square and undamaged.That's why Ford services the entire housing only-not the bushing seperately.
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Thanks Johnny.

Yeah, I verified all the ?'s with the help of JL and others before I ordered it and made sure to get one from a 4x2.

Is that rubber seal easy to replace? and is the fluid coming out of the end normal when it is tipped down? I've never fiddled with one of these before.
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I haven't done anything that anyone else here couldn't do if they read Jerry's article and had the proper tools...
Trust me, the 5.4L trans fits in there fine. And yes my article should cover anything you'll need to swap it in. If the seals look damaged replace them.

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what did you pay for the 4r and how many miles?
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It was around $450 on Greenleaf. The listing said 1000 miles.
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