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What yould you do to a 4r70w to make it live at 500+ fwhp on a 418?

I'm getting ready to start building a trans for my 351 stroked 418 engine. It will be puting out over 500 fwhp.

Right now I have a 98 4r70w, a 95 aode and a 99+vb. I got the aode for the tail shaft housing. I know the 4r70w has the mech diode in it. I also have a rebuild kit that has blue plate special clutches in it. Should I use those or should I get the clutche and steels from ford and fit as many as I can in the tranny? Does anyone have the part# for the clutches and steels from ford? How thick of steels should I use? Am I missing anything?

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did you read the tranny 101 article yet?

do so first.. very important

why do you need the AODE tailshaft?

what vehicle did the 98 4R70W come off of?
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I have read tranny 101 many times. Both trannys are from mustangs. I was just seeing if they are any updates that are not in tranny 101.
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i take it the aode is off your 95 5.0?

since you sound like you are using the AODE tailshaft for that reason, make sure it has the correct tailshaft seal.. some kits have the aode seal, some have the 4R70w seal
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I have 2 extra trannys, a 98 4r70w and a 95 aode. Wht about the clutches and steels?
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What about them? You need to add extra clutches and steel plates to hold the extra horsepower and torque.
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I also have a rebuild kit that has blue plate special clutches in it. Should I use those or should I get the clutche and steels from ford and fit as many as I can in the tranny? Does anyone have the part# for the clutches and steels from ford? How thick of steels should I use?
Should i use the blue plate or the stockers from ford? where is the best place to get them from?
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Part numbers for the clutch material and the steel plates should be in the Tranny 101 article. As for where to get them? Talk to Dan Newman. He's got a forum here called Ford Parts HQ.
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ok, with this much power should i use blue plate special or the ford clutches?
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Don't know anything about the blue plate special clutches. I think most of the people that are building "stout" 4r's around here are using Ford parts.
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I'm getting ready to start building a trans for my 351 stroked 418 engine. It will be puting out over 500 fwhp.

Right now I have a 98 4r70w, a 95 aode and a 99+vb. I got the aode for the tail shaft housing. I know the 4r70w has the mech diode in it. I also have a rebuild kit that has blue plate special clutches in it. Should I use those or should I get the clutche and steels from ford and fit as many as I can in the tranny? Does anyone have the part# for the clutches and steels from ford? How thick of steels should I use? Am I missing anything?

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Why not get in on the Group Purchase for a "J Spec" built transmission?
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Why not get in on the Group Purchase for a "J Spec" built transmission?
They are too easy to rebuild. I have done it a couple of times and I was amazed on how easy it is.
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I'd stick with brand new Ford clutches/steels, and I'd also use the 4R70W tail shaft and housing. Change the yoke on the driveshaft to a 4R70W one. With that much power I wouldnt be surprised an AODE shaft/yoke would break. Get the sprial lock retainer from makco for the mechanical diode OWC. Other than that just build it to the 101 article's specs.

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